Quick Summary: In this episode, Cheryl explores what happens when a midlife marriage quietly drifts into a “roommate” relationship, and why gray divorce is rising. With archival clips from couples expert Dr. Jackie Black, you’ll learn the early signs of disconnection and simple daily habits that help you reconnect, even if you feel like the only one trying.
Intro:
You’re not fighting. You’re not unhappy, exactly. But somewhere between the busy kid years, work, and aging parents, your marriage started to feel more like a well-run household than a relationship. Then the kids leave, and the house gets very quiet.
In this episode, I pick up where last week’s conversation with James Davis left off and look at what’s happening to our relationships in midlife. I bring back clips from my conversation with Dr. Jackie Black, relationship expert, marriage educator, and certified coach, from my earlier podcast. We talk about the “transactional years,” why so many couples drift into being best friends or roommates, what’s behind gray divorce, and the small, intentional habits that can bring you back toward each other.
What You’ll Learn:
✔ The Roommate Drift: Why couples who aren’t fighting can still slowly disconnect, and how the empty nest can bring that drift to the surface
✔ Small Daily Connections: Dr. Jackie’s practical ideas for reconnecting, including daily non-sexual touch, saying appreciation out loud, and turning things you already do into shared rituals
✔ When You’re the Only One Trying: Why “he’s still showing up” matters, and how working with a couples counselor or coach can help, even if you go alone
Links & Resources:
Episode 105 with James Davis (Midlife Mentors)
Dr. Jackie Black
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Episode 103 on drifting through life
Connect with Cheryl on social media: @cherylpfischer
Frequently Asked Questions:
Why do couples start feeling like roommates in midlife?
Dr. Jackie explains that during the years with young kids and teens, relationships often become transactional and focus on who’s doing what and when. That’s where a subtle disconnection begins. Many couples aren’t fighting, but a hollowness or boredom sets in.
What’s the difference between being “best friends” and being connected as a couple?
Dr. Jackie describes “best friend” couples as companionate. They enjoy each other, travel together, and support each other, but the romance, intimacy, and emotional vulnerability have “gone to sleep.”
How can I reconnect with my husband after the kids leave home?
Dr. Jackie recommends daily non-sexual touch, like a squeeze of the shoulder or hand, telling your partner they matter, and creating rituals around things you already do, like coffee in the morning or a walk together. Cheryl adds that she and her husband deliberately looked for hobbies to share, including biking.
How do I know if we’re drifting apart?
Cheryl suggests asking yourself when you last had a real conversation, laughed together, or touched on purpose. Not arguing doesn’t mean everything is great, and catching the drift early is key.
What is gray divorce, and why is it happening?
Cheryl explains that gray divorce refers to couples divorcing later in life. She points to longer lifespans, women’s greater financial independence, re-evaluating life at transitions like the empty nest, and not feeling seen or communicating well.
What if I’m the only one trying to fix the relationship?
Dr. Jackie says that as long as you’re both still there, there’s still hope, and that “he’s showing up” is enough to start with. Cheryl adds that a couples counselor or coach can still help even if only one of you goes.
Episode Chapters:
00:00:00 - Midlife Reality Check And Welcome
00:01:58 - Why The Focus Shifts To Marriage
00:02:53 - How Couples Turn Into Roommates
00:05:26 - Transactional Parenting Years Create Distance
00:07:46 - Empty Nest Boredom And New Hobbies
00:11:51 - Gray Divorce Trends And What Drives It
00:15:36 - Daily Joy Touch Words And Rituals
00:21:20 - When You Feel Like The Only One
00:24:34 - Catch The Drift Before It Grows
00:26:39 - Closing Thoughts And How To Connect
Why This Episode Matters
Drifting apart rarely happens all at once. Noticing it early and adding small daily moments of connection can change how you see each other and help you choose this next chapter together.
Take a little bit better care of yourself in midlife.
