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We're going to talk today about something that is really, really important.
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It's a heavier topic than what a lot of Mind your Midlife episodes are about, and the reason we're talking about it is that the actual act of talking about it and knowing what is going on and understanding what we can do and what we can look for is the key, is the key to solving this, and what I'm talking about is domestic abuse, and it might be physical abuse, it might be mental, emotional, psychological.
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It might be very obvious, it might be very hidden.
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The key is awareness, knowing what to look for, knowing how to help, because that is a tricky, tricky thing, and you're going to hear my guest and I talk about that, so stick with me.
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This is an important one.
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I am so grateful when it comes to this topic of domestic abuse, that I have not been in a situation where I have had a relationship where abuse was involved.
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I am so grateful for that Because you're going to hear today, it's very, very common, and so the goal is to know what to look for and know how to help if someone who's important to you in your life potentially could be in a situation like this and know how to recognize the signs that maybe this new person that you met when you went on the over 50 dating app isn't actually all that they seem.
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We want to know what to look for and we want to know how to help.
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So today's guest is Tiffany Newton.
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Six years ago, tiffany left an abusive relationship and she has transformed that pain into her purpose.
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She's a life insurance broker.
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Her purpose she's a life insurance broker.
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She's the founder of New Tide Consulting LLC, and she's also the president and co-founder of Ignite Her Inc.
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And one of the things you'll hear her talking about is that she is getting certified to teach Brazilian Jiujitsu because she is doing self-defense classes equipping women to protect themselves.
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She is actively a domestic violence advocate and has served on various response teams and task forces.
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Sharing her story she believes helps others of us recognize the signs of abuse, develop safe exit strategies and reclaim our strength.
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And I could not agree more and I really believe this is going to be an important discussion.
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So welcome, tiffany.
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Thank you.
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This is such an important conversation to have, but it's something that also, I guess, could be kind of overlooked or certainly hidden.
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Can you give us an idea of how big of a problem domestic violence is, how many women are affected, how often it happens and all those kind of basic pieces?
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Being raised up and in most women this is potentially the case.
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I'm not going to speak on behalf of all women, but so many of us are like, raised on the nurturing side, we're handed dolls and you know the feminine things.
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So speaking up to protect ourselves isn't what we were brought up saying and speaking out Right.
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So you know framing it in that way.
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I don't think the reported numbers are true numbers because there are so many that don't get reported and these numbers are just the reported.
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It's reported that one in three women will experience some form of domestic violence or domestic abuse in their lifetime.
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Wow, and that's only reported, one in three.
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And abuse isn't.
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You know, as you and I've talked, abuse isn't just broken bones and black eyes and bruises.
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It's all encompassing of fear and control and manipulation, and that it happens in every community.
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It doesn't matter the income level, it doesn't matter the race, it doesn't matter the gender, every background, every income level.
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It encompasses all of it.
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And the craziest thing is that most victims, when it starts, most victims, don't even realize it's abuse, especially when it's emotional or psychological, because it starts out so little, right it's.
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They're chipping away like you would whittle something in wood, right, you don't hack it.
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If you're trying to be delicate and chip away at something, you do small little movements and that's kind of how it all begins.
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That's why I even got into, you know, talking about all of this, because all of those are dark corners.
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It it's embarrassing, it brings up guilt and shame, and I want to be able to help women recognize those signs so they can protect themselves before it escalates.
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Get out before it escalates, protect yourself.
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And so we're used to talking about this, I think, with regards to physical abuse, which we can certainly talk about, but you point out that there is also emotional and there's also psychological.
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Point out that there is also emotional and there's also psychological, and so can you talk us through what those are and the differences between them?
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I guess Sure.
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I mean physical.
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I mean that's what we all are accustomed to, right?
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We don't think it's abuse if it's not physical, right?
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So that's easy.
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Hitting, strangulation, slapping, restraining, kidnapping, I mean all of that kind of falls into that category.
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Emotional abuse is way more quiet.
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You don't really know what's happening.
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Constant criticism oh, you're going to wear that.
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Why are you getting more dressed up for work than you do with?
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You know, for me, gaslighting?
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No, that never happened.
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That wasn't me.
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Why are you?
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Why are you taking that so out of context?
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You're, you know, you're, you're crazy.
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Isolation of you know, oh, they don't have the best, their best interest in you.
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Or if you do, go out with friends.
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Or, in my case, I went to go get my haircut and he was blowing up my phone while I was getting my haircut because he didn't want me getting my haircut.
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So he found a hairdresser that would come to the house and do my hair.
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Wow, so isolation, right.
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And it chips away at your self-worth.
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It's actually like a false sense of self-worth because you think it's getting built up because, oh, I have your best interest at heart.
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I'm going to do something special for you.
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I'm going to send you to the spa, I'm going to bring someone here to do your hair.
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See, I care about you, right?
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So they're elevating your sense of self-worth and you feel so important to them, but they're stripping it away.
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It's like the magic trick of, you know, whipping out the tablecloth out from underneath the dining set, right?
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So that is you know.
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You just feel so special, not realizing, and there's a quote I'll tell you kind of as we wrap up, that really impacted me.
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It hit me really hard when I realized this.
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But you just feel so special, but you don't realize, you're not, you're not, you're getting groomed, you're not.
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It's not actually a special feeling, it's another feeling that you should be listening to, but it's not you feeling special.
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And then, of course, the psychological is about the control and fear, right, the threats, the stalking, the I need to see your phone I who are you cheating with, destroying personal property?
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He took things of mine and threw them on the ground while I was gone at work and I would come home to things broken.
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I don't know.
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You must've done that when you move the towel off the counter, or like blaming things again, gaslighting, going back to gaslighting.
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And then, of course, like I was mentioning, you can utilize the legal system for the psychological side of it, Right, but it's all.
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All the psychological stuff is designed to make you feel powerless, right, but they could all overlap and that's very, it's a very dangerous recipe.
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It really sort of clarified for me when you said that the person in this situation may feel like, wow, this person really is so into me and that's very validating, or I'm struggling for exactly the right word.
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It feels good maybe to think, wow, this person is it's like you're on your honeymoon.
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Yeah, they're so focused on me, they're so into me.
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I can see how that would be a trap for sure.
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Yeah, I mean that becomes the trauma bond.
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So you feel so like, wow, this is an amazing feeling.
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But you don't realize what that feeling is.
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Right, it's actually your gut telling you to get the hell out of Dodge, but you feel like you're so wrapped up in like this amazing, like attraction and this chemistry and this honeymoon tornado of what they're dragging you through until it's too late, Like if that trauma bond gets stronger and stronger with each day that they say something to you or chip away or build you up.
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You are just holding on for that hope to get back to the person that you met when you first met them.
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And I know in your situation, there was something that kind of flipped the switch for you and you realized that you needed to get out.
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Is that a common part of the story for someone who's escaped from this or recovered from this?
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I think you're so.
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On average it takes seven to eight times, and some places say seven, some say eight.
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So I'll just say it's kind of right smack in the middle.
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So maybe 7.5, right.
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But it really does take multiple times to leave that person because that trauma bond is so strong and the feeling of hope that you're holding on to when they'll be good to you again is super strong.
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That's when hope becomes dangerous.
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The first time you leave, oh, maybe I overreacted.
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Right, they're telling you you're overreacting.
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Maybe I looked at this wrong.
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Maybe I need to look at it from their point of view.
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Maybe I was doing this wrong.
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Maybe it is my fault.
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You go down this rabbit hole of blame, fault, like you go down this rabbit hole of blame, you blame yourself, and then there just becomes a time and it it could be throw a dart at one of the times.
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Right, it really depends on your own situation where it is okay, I'm awake to what the heck is happening to me.
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I know I'm not crazy.
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How do I get myself out of it?
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When?
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Because that last, that last question is when you start putting together a strategic plan to get out right.
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It could be as as minimal as I'm going to put the keys in my purse and I'm going to have my purse by the door and as soon as they leave for work, I'm grabbing it and going.
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I'm not leaving any time.
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It could be that minute.
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It could be a much more developed plan of I need to get this from the bank account.
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I need to do this.
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I need to make sure my mom or my friend or my sister or my brother has these items.
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I need to make sure X, y, z is in place before I do that.
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So it can be a small safety plan.
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It can be an involved safety plan.
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It all depends on your own situation.
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Right, your body will say OK, I'm done.
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You reach a certain point.
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Yeah, it's no longer am I at fault anymore.
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You realize that it's not your fault.
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You have done absolutely everything humanly possible because they tell it's your fault.
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They tell you it's your fault.
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If you were to act like this, we would be fine.
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If you were to do this, we would be fine.
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It got to the point where I said I need to see a therapist.
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I feel like I'm going crazy.
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You know what, tiffany?
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If you go see a therapist, you're wasting your money.
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All they're going to tell you is to please your partner and you'll be fine.
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Wow, again, gaslighting, right, yeah, putting themselves in that spot.
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And when he said that, I was like what?
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I don't think that any professional, because I've.
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You know, I went through therapy after my divorce back in 2010.
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And, having that experience, they're not going to just say that like no.
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So you start to wake up a little bit.
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Right, the fog kind of lifts from your.
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It's like in the cartoons where the sun is here and the fog or the clouds are across.
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You just kind of see the light.
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Right, it's kind of the fog lifts from your brain and you see that things are happening that you need to get out of that.
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You are now in a dangerous situation.
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Yeah, and in your book I know you talked about what happened to you and kind of how that became more obvious to you.
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For sure, yeah, I don't know if this is PG-13 or you know, r or X rated, you know.
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But yeah, there was a phrase said to me and I was like, oh no, I'm done, I'm done.
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Yeah, well, and luckily in your case it was before anything even worse could happen, and that, I know, is not always the case for everyone.
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I mean he was very careful.
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We lived on the beach, so I was in a bathing suit, we were, you know, I was in a bikini whenever we were on the beach, so he had to be very careful with with things.
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He had punched me in my chest, he had cornered me into corners.
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Like he's 6'2", like 240, big dude, double my size.
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All right, I'm five foot four.
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So him like over me, bully behavior, ripping things out of my hands, throwing me to the ground, trying to get into my work computer that had health protected information, hipaa information, because I worked at a medical facility.
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Thankfully it was password protected and he couldn't get in.
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He stretched those boundaries as far as he could go, wow.
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But he grabbed my dog and I was like put her down.
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He's like see, if you were to stick up for me, like you're sticking up for your dog, we would be fine, like those are the kind of things he would say why didn't you step in for me?
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Why didn't you get that for me?
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Why is it?
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Is it you and me against them or are you against me, like always using that manipulation?
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Yeah, which from the outside, doesn't make sense, but from the inside, yeah, I see that.
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So then let's talk about.
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I imagine that if you're listening right now, you could be thinking about this for yourself, or you could be thinking about this for someone that you know and wondering if they're okay.
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So tell us a little bit about some things that we should watch for, some red flags that we want to really be aware of.
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I.
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So one of the first in my therapy session, one of the questions that she asked me first is if you were to look back on, what is the biggest red flag that stood out to you from the very beginning.
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So this one always takes.
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The first stage is the love bombing and the grooming.
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So right after we started dating was Valentine's Day.
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So we started dating in January and then, you know, within two weeks is Valentine's Day.
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So he got me like the sapphire and diamond bracelet, love bombing, right.
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And then which I thought was thoughtful because my birthday is in September, it's sapphire, right.
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And then he was like let's go on a trip to Miami.
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There's something that he wanted to do down there anyway.
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So he's like let's go to Miami.
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I'm like, oh, this is amazing.
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Right, we get down there.
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And he's like I want to take you shopping.
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Let's buy you a pair of shoes.
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He picks I'm like you pick out the pair of shoes.
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I have no extra need for any additional shoes at this point.
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I'm not like a.
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I like shoes, but I'm not that girl that has a bazillion pairs.
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So he picks out the shoes.
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We go to dinner.
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He expects me to wear them at dinner, which I didn't expect, and we're sitting at dinner and this was kind of like the big thing that was so revealing through my own therapy.
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We're sitting at dinner.
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It's a beautiful night in Miami.
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We're on Lincoln road, which is all like cafes and restaurants.
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It's like a walkable shopping area.
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We're sitting there at dinner.
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The wind is nice, it's a nice temperature, it's February, it's beautiful.
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And I have like this smile on my face, not like a teeth smile, but like a pleasant, I'm enjoying myself smile.
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And he looks over at me and he goes why are you not happy to be here with me, dear?
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I'm like what do you mean?
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I like second guessed myself.
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Like am I smiling?
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Was I frowning?
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Like what was on?
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What was my face doing?
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Was my brain not talking to my face?
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Like I was second guessing myself.
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That was grooming 101.
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Like saying something and expecting me to react how he wanted me to react, not how I was reacting.
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Wow, okay so that was like full on manipulation right there of you know, I'm happy, I'm smiling.
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So I then had to prove myself to him that I was happy.
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Right, you have that feeling of what was my face doing.
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Now I have to overly exaggerate because maybe my face and my brain aren't talking to each other.
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I had no idea.
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But that was the biggest thing for me was the love bombing early on and the grooming of what I thought I was doing.
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He said I wasn't doing so the gaslighting even in that, right.
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Right.
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So when you say grooming, I guess in general it's saying or doing things to cause you to question that what you think or your reaction is not the right one, something like that.
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Grooming, as in if we're in a specific thing, he expects me to act a certain way.
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So he was trying to like funnel that down.
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Okay, right.
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So if we were in the gym, I was not like he would like line these things up.
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Like.
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If I was in the gym, I was not to even look up at a guy.
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I had to, like, either look at him directly or down at the ground.
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Wow.
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So he had expectations of how I was to behave and that's how he, through little manipulations, devised it that way.
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Right, if I looked somewhere, who are you looking at?
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Why are you looking at them?
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I'm right here.
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Who else do you need to look at?
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Are they more important than me?
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Why are you not paying attention?
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It just became like consequences to each thing that he felt I was doing wrong, whether I was doing something wrong or not.
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It didn't matter.
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I'm just trying to think out loud now.
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So, obviously, if we're in a relationship with someone and I guess it's not necessarily always a romantic relationship that we're talking about but we might disappoint each other with how we react to something, or, you know, we do something for the other person.
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We thought they would love it.
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They don't love it, but what you're talking about is like a step beyond that where you need to show the reaction that they want you to right.