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Have you ever seen the meme?
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Maybe on your Instagram, on your TikTok, whatever you're into in terms of social media, maybe it's Facebook.
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We are in midlife, right?
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But have you ever seen the meme that says something about either you being the friend that your other friends can't be with in a serious situation because you're gonna make them laugh, or how great it is to be friends that make each other laugh no matter the situation.
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I know you've seen it.
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And every time it pops up, I'm messaging some of my friends from all the way back to high school, college, since then, and saying, whoops, that's me.
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Yep, I know, I'm the laugher.
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And my sister and I, good heavens, I mean, watch out, world, when we're together.
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And you know what?
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That's a good thing.
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There was a time when I was trying to be a sophisticated grown-up adult when I was in my, I don't know, late 20s, early 30s, when I was trying to squash this love I have of laughing.
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And I was trying to be sophisticated and more serious and not giggling all the time.
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But the fact is, my very favorite thing to do is to laugh like a crazy person till tears are coming out of my eyes.
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That's why I love comedy, that's why I love books that make me laugh, and that's why I have friends who also love to laugh.
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Now, if this is you, you are gonna love this episode because we're gonna find out how amazingly healthy this is for us.
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You know laughter is the best medicine, right?
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But do you know what laughter yoga is?
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Did you know it can give you good abs?
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And did you know how healthy this is for your body?
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Stay tuned.
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Welcome to Mind Your Midlife, your go-to resource for confidence and success, one thought at a time.
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Unlike most advice out there, we believe that simply telling you to believe in yourself or change your habits isn't enough to wake up excited about life or feel truly confident in your body.
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Each week, you'll gain actionable strategies and, oh my goodness, powerful insights to stop feeling stuck and start loving your midlife.
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This is the Mind Your Midlife podcast.
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Kathy Nesbitt, a health and wellness advocate, is joining me today.
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She leads Kathy's Laughter Club as a certified laughter yoga teacher.
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And I am fascinated.
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So listen in.
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So laughter yoga is is just that.
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It's not jokes or comedy.
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It's laughing as a cardiovascular workout.
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I I'm so I can't I can't wait to talk about it.
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Let's start, though, with why laughter?
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What's what's so powerful and so important and healthy about laughter?
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Laughter changes everything.
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It changes our state.
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I know you've heard the expression laughter is the best medicine.
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Absolutely.
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It is.
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And my next question is: have you had your daily dose?
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Dopamine, oxytocin, serotonin, and endorphins.
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When we're laughing, we're secreting the love drugs versus cortisol, adrenaline, epinephrine, the stress chemicals.
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We have two nervous systems in our body where one is only one is operating at a time.
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So we're either in their stress mode or we're in rest and digest mode.
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Laughter gets us into rest and digest.
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Okay, I like that.
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That's a very simple way to say it and yet powerful because I think we all, we've we've said it already.
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You said it, laughter's the best medicine.
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We've all heard that.
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And at the same time, maybe we didn't know why.
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Right, exactly.
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There are so many health benefits for laughing.
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Talk therapy, I'm sure, is a fine thing, but we need to revisit the trauma, whatever it was that caused the stress.
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With laughter, it's it's uh it's like our body's mechanism to shift us from again, stress to rest and digest.
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And it and it happens by laughter, it is just a chemical biological process, chemic, chemical, electrical process.
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It's simply a vibration.
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So when we're laughing, we're high vibration.
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When we're when we're depressed and anxious, we're we're not taking up much space, we're breathing shallow, and again, secreting the stress chemicals.
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Yeah, it's all wrapped up together.
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And I like how you call our our kind of calm state rest and digest, because on various episodes, we've talked about gut health on the podcast as well.
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And so, I mean, gut health is almost like the secret to everything health-wise.
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And so we want to be in that state.
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And so if this gets us there, then fantastic.
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Right.
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Uh uh, some people eat when they're under stress, and I would suggest not to eat during stressful times because what happens is we're in that stress mode.
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Our body is not digesting all of the, not all, but blood, lymph, oxygen leaves our frontal lobe.
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That fluid, those things go into our muscles so we can escape the situation, even if it's just we've lost our keys and we're looking for our keys.
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Our body doesn't know the difference between if we're in, you know, danger or we're just like annoyed at something, like we've lost our keys or missed the bus.
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Our body acts exactly the same.
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And it takes hours for our body to recover from that.
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So when so when we stress eat, the food is going in, but it's coming out, and we're our body's not using the nutrients.
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Oh my gosh, I don't think I've ever heard anyone say that in that way.
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That's really, really helpful.
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Thank you.
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I'm glad we got on to that.
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So that leads us then to laughter yoga.
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So I've heard of it.
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I thought, am I doing yoga poses while laughing?
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What does this even mean?
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So tell us what is laughter yoga.
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Wonderful.
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Started in 1995 by a medical doctor, Dr.
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Madan Kataria, he's in India, and his goal is world peace.
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So it's not doing yoga and laughing, it's laughing as a cardiovascular exercise.
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So the yoga part is the practice of the laughter and the deep diaphragmatic breathing.
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Because we're shallow breathers, especially we're living in a perpetual state of stress.
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Laughter is the opposite of stress.
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So this really does help us.
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When we're in stress, it's just damaging.
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We've heard that stress is a killer.
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It's the truth because all of these things get compounded.
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We hear a bad news and we go into stress, and then we hear, you know, groceries are going up, that there's no jobs, that there's a housing shortage, that all of these things, you know, war and famine and just all the things.
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It's amazing we're still standing.
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There's a there's a English is a beautiful language, and there's an expression, and I'll I'll say this expression and then I'll break it down.
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So it's no laughter, no problem.
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No laughter, no problem.
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Okay, so N-O laughter, K N O W problem.
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So if we're not laughing, then we need to talk about our problem.
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Kn O W laughter, N-O problem, and not no problem, but we can handle it better because our beautiful brain is fully oxygenated now.
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Solution can pour into our brains.
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Unlike when we're stressed, we're not breathing properly, our body's not getting what it means.
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For sure, our brain isn't.
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Wow.
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So it's it's a beautiful, oh, it's just, and I think again, back to talk therapy.
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I'm sure it's a fine thing.
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It's it can be a year years and years that people go to therapy.
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And we do need to visit our trauma again.
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What laughter does, it allows us permission almost to talk about it because it frees us.
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Sometimes people will come to a laughter club, and in the last little while, it's happened a couple of times where people come and they feel sad after the laughter.
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So, what happens there is when we have an episode that causes trauma, and it can be a small thing or a big thing, we can't we can't compare our traumas.
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It everyone deals differently.
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If when something happens to us, we take a deep inhale.
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And if we don't do anything with that, it gets into our body, it gets into our cells, and then the next trauma and it goes on top, and they they and then it's kind of a layer of trauma that's in our belly that we carry around with us, and we think we're okay.
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I mean, it can be a something, something as simple as tripping in public, and then we jump up like we're so embarrassed.
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Oh my gosh, someone will say, Are you okay?
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And we're like, Oh, I'm okay.
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I mean, my your head's gushing because you you're bleeding, but you know, we're so embarrassed.
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I don't know what how this all came about.
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Um, so that so the laughter sometimes can stir up because our diaphragm is attached to all of our organs.
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So when we're laughing, it's like internal jogging, and memories can get released.
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And I think what happens is now we're it's later, it's maybe years or decades later, and we might be more mature, we're able to look at that thing that caused us trauma before.
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And that's all it is.
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This this emotion coming up, we need to kind of look at it.
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Oh, hello, there you are again, and then we can release it and let it go.
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I think that's what happens.
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So when when when people come to laughter and they will report after, man, I was feeling sad after, what was that about?
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Why did that come about?
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Then we can talk about it.
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Interesting.
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Yeah.
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I do some tapping with my coaching clients sometimes.
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And it's it's a similar principle that if we're tapping on these meridian points and talking through things that are bothering us is kind of allowing us to let that emotion out and kind of unblock the energy.
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And it's kind of what you're saying.
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Some of these things may come out, but we can let them out then, right?
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That's it.
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Yes, I love that you say tapping.
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There's so many modalities, Cheryl, that we can use for our own self-care.
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And I do incorporate tapping, not the whole mantra of saying things, but tapping on stomach.
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I do four spots: stomach, kidney, thymus, spleen every day.
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And in my Laughter Club, I'll also tap on those to remind people.
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If you tap on these four spots every day, you're it just helps your body get into a nice rhythm.
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Okay, that's great.
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And those are different spots than what I use.
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So I'm glad we I'm glad we brought that up.
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Excellent.
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Yeah, and it it seems like such a small thing, but it really does make a difference for sure.
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It's so powerful.
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It's it changes everything.
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Laughter has changed my life.
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I was happy go lucky before.
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Now that so I've been laughing since 2012 when I was introduced.
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In 2020, when the world shut down, before 2020, I was doing between 100 and 200 events a year, school workshops, speaking gigs, um vendor events where I'm displaying things.
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Ah, I was a hamster and I thought I needed to be everywhere, and I was everywhere.
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And then the world shut down.
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I was like, oh, now what do I do?
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Like, what do now what?
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Yeah.
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So much thinking time.
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And I realized, oh my gosh.
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Oh well, I actually took a deep dive into why the expression laughter is the best medicine.
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Why is that?
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And if that's the case, why aren't we just laughing?
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And I realized there's science behind it.
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There's about 50 years of research proving that laughter it has so many health benefits.
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So the question, Cheryl, is if laughter is so beneficial for our body, why is it so challenging for us to receive abundant, reliable, sustainable laughter for our health?
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The answer?
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Our critical mind.
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As we age, as we grow up, you know, you see kids, they're just laughing.
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What are they doing?
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They're just laughing.
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Nothing.
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They're not doing anything, they're just playing.
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We need to adopt more of that because our critical mind gets in the way.
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We hear a joke and we go, it goes through all these filters.
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I heard that joke before, I'm not laughing again.
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That joke wasn't funny the first time.
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Why would I laugh now?
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That's a dirty joke.
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Maybe I'm I don't like that kind of humor.
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Is it safe to laugh with the people that I'm with?
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What will they think if I'm laughing?
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So all of these things, and then they're super fast.
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Like it's not like it's it's conscious, it's just very fast.
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But it goes through all those filters.
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The answer to to this is laughter yoga.
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It's not about jokes or comedy, it's intentional laughing.
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And people will often say, I laugh all the time.
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Do you do you laugh like for 10 or 15 minutes, full on, belly laughing every day?
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Right?
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Do you have rock hard abs from laughing?
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I do.
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Wow.
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Oh my goodness, everyone listening.
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There's a reason to do it right there.
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It's free, Cheryl.
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It's free.
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It's in us, waiting to burst out.
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Why do we laugh at inappropriate times?
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Like at a funeral, or when somebody's, you know, um somebody has fallen, and then we we laugh like it's it's not funny, but we we might laugh as a response.
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That's our body saying you're too tight, you're too stressed, you need a release, and that's all it is.
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It's like the pressure cooker.
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So the laughter is is this wonderful mechanism in us.
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But what happened?
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Why is it again?
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Why is it so challenging?
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Our critical mind, and it was the Greeks like Aristotle and Plato felt that laughter was frivolous, it was it was silly.
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If you were laughing, so the more educated you were, the less you laughed because it was frowned upon.
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Wow.
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And and I think that is a sort of a core belief that in society we kind of still have as you're saying that.
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When I do presentations and training and teaching, I do try to make sure I'm a bit more informal.
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And I don't want people to to you know be so stiff and bored, but I get criticized for that occasionally because we need to be more formal.
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I mean, not not frivolous, you know, and more serious.
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So yeah, it's kind of part of society that we assume that, isn't it?
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It's this ingrained piece because it's like, where did that come from?
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And if people have heard, I've been traveling around the world by podcast, over 300 episodes.
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I don't know how many countries I've been to.
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I ask every host if they've heard the expression, laughter's the best medicine.
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Everybody, I haven't met one person around the world that hasn't heard that.
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And that's the reason that Dr.
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Kataria started Laughter Yoga.
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He was dispensing, you know, antidepressants, maybe taking a few.
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No, I don't know.
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Just the samples.
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Um, and he was writing an article for a magazine on laughter, and he read all this research.
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So he said, Wow, if laughter is the best medicine, why don't we just laugh?
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And he started a club.
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The first club had five people, and I think that's funny.
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He could only find five people in India.
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So they would meet in a park every morning, they would tell funny stories, they would tell jokes.
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After two weeks, they grew to 50 people, and then the jokes started to become off-color.
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Two people going somewhere, not funny for those two people, not cool.
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And the people were like, Oh, we don't like this anymore.
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It was fun, but yeah, no, I don't like those stories.
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So he said, Come back tomorrow, I'm gonna have a solution.
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He didn't know what it was gonna be, but I guess he thought about it, and he got an inspiration, like, oh, kids are always laughing.
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Why don't we be childlike?
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Not childish, childlike, and so created little games, and that's how the first club came about.
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So there's clapping and chanting, and the clapping is palm-to-pom.
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So you're activating meridians.